Rifle No 5 Mk I (aka Lee–Enfield No 5 Mk I, aka Lee–Enfield Jungle Carbine) Rifle No 5 on display at the Parachute Regiment and Airborne Forces MuseumTypeService riflePlace of originUnited KingdomService historyIn service1944–PresentUsed byUnited KingdomCommonwealth of NationsWarsKorean WarMalayan EmergencyBangladesh Liberation WarBougainville Civil War[1]British Post-WWII colonial conflictsProduction historyDesignerRoyal Ordnance Factory Fazakerley, Birmingham Small Arms CompanyDesigned1944Produced1944–1947No. built251,368 total; 81,329 (BSA Shirley), 169,807 (ROF Fazakerley)[2]SpecificationsMass7 lb 1 oz (3.20 kg), unloadedLength39.5 in (1,003 mm)Barrel length18.8 in (478 mm)Cartridge.303 Mk VII SAA BallCalibre.303 BritishActionBolt actionRate of fire20–30 rounds/minuteMuzzle velocity2,250 ft/s (686 m/s)Effective firing range500 yd (457 m)Maximum firing range200–800 yd (183–732 m) sight adjustmentsFeed system10-round detachable magazine, loaded with 5-round charger clipsSightsFlip-up rear aperture sights, fixed-post front sights
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The Rifle No. 5 Mk I, was a derivative of the British Lee–Enfield No. 4 Mk I,[3] designed in response to a requirement for a shorter, lighter, rifle for airborne forces in Europe. However its operational use was in post-war colonial campaigns such as the Malayan emergency - where it gained its common nickname of the 'Jungle Carbine'.
Production began in March 1944, and finished in December 1947.[4]
Shooting and showing my 'new' Lee Enfield No. 5 MK I 'Jungle Carbine.' Excuse me, I suppose it's a 'Rainforest Carbine'!:-) - -. Shooting and showing my 'new' Lee Enfield No. 5 MK I 'Jungle Carbine.' Excuse me, I suppose it's a 'Rainforest Carbine'!:-) - -.
There never was a carbine version of the Ishapore 2A/2A1 rifle, and there never was any such thing as a “No. 7 Jungle Carbine.” The Lee-Enfield No. 7 rifle is a.22 caliber training rifle, similar in appearance to a full-size No. 4 rifle, which was made in both Canada and Great Britain in the late 1940s. Jul 11, 2011 The Lee-Enfield Rifle No. 1 is usually known as the “Jungle Carbine.” Although that was always a nickname for the model, it was never called a Jungle Carbine in official terminology. In late 1942 the British Infantry Weapons Development committee began research on a shorter and lighter version of the standard-issue rifle, the No.Military service[edit]
The term was colloquial and never applied by the British Armed Forces,[5] but the Rifle No. 5 Mk I was informally referred to as a 'Jungle Carbine' by British and Commonwealth troops during the Malayan Emergency.[3]
The No. 5 was about 100 mm shorter and nearly a kilogram lighter than the No. 4 from which it was derived. A number of 'lightening cuts' were made to the receiver body and the barrel, the bolt knob drilled out, woodwork cut down to reduce weight and had other new features like a flash suppressor and a rubber buttpad to help absorb the increased recoil and to prevent slippage on the shooters clothing while aiming.[6] Unlike modern recoil pads the No. 5 buttpad significantly reduced the contact area with the users shoulder increasing the amount of felt recoil of the firearm.According to official recoil tests the No. 4 rifle yielded 10.06 ft⋅lbf (13.64 J) free recoil energy and the No. 5 carbine 14.12 ft⋅lbf (19.14 J). Of the No. 5 carbine 4.06 ft⋅lbf (5.50 J) extra recoil energy 1.44 ft⋅lbf (1.95 J) was caused by adding the conical flash suppressor (muzzle shroud).[7]The No. 5 iron sight line was also derived from the No. 4 marks and featured a rear receiver aperture battle sight calibrated for 300 yd (274 m) with an additional ladder aperture sight that could be flipped up and was calibrated for 200–800 yd (183–732 m) in 100 yd (91 m) increments.It was used in the Far East and other Jungle-type environments (hence the 'Jungle Carbine' nickname) and was popular with troops because of its light weight (compared to the SMLE and Lee–Enfield No. 4 Mk I rifles then in service) and general ease of use,[8] although there were some concerns from troops about the increased recoil due to the lighter weight.[3]
Due to the large conical flash suppressor, the No 5 Mk I could only mount the No. 5 blade bayonet, which was also designed to serve as a combat knife if needed.[9]
A No. 5 Mk 2 version (or, more accurately, versions, as several were put forward) of the rifle was proposed (including changes such as strengthening the action to enable grenade-firing, and mounting the trigger from the receiver instead of on the trigger guard), but none of them was ever put into production and there was subsequently no No. 5 Mk 2 rifle in service.[10] Similarly, a number of 'takedown' models of No. 5 Mk I rifle intended for Airborne use were also trialled, but were not put into production.[11]Wandering Zero[edit]The blade bayonet for a Lee–Enfield No 5 Mk I.
One of the complaints leveled against the No. 5 Mk I rifle by soldiers was that it had a 'wandering zero' — i.e., the rifle could not be 'sighted in' and then relied upon to shoot to the same point of impact later on.[3] This condition is accurately referred to as an inability to zero, which would require this ability.
Tests conducted during the mid to late 1940s appeared to confirm that the rifle did have some accuracy issues, likely relating to the lightening cuts made in the receiver, combined with the presence of a flash suppressor on the end of the barrel,[12] and the British Government officially declared that the Jungle Carbine's faults were 'inherent in the design' and discontinued production at the end of 1947.[13]
However, modern collectors and shooters have pointed out that no Jungle Carbine collector/shooter on any of the prominent internet military firearm collecting forums has reported a confirmed 'wandering zero' on their No. 5 Mk I rifle,[3] leading to speculation that the No. 5 Mk I may have been phased out largely because the British military did not want a bolt-action rifle when most of the other major militaries were switching over to semi-automatic longarms[3] such as the M1 Garand, SKS, FN Model 1949 and MAS-49. (Anecdotal evidence from shooters of military surplus firearms suggests that the wandering zero problem would be alleviated by free-floating the barrel and glass-bedding the action.)
Nonetheless, it has also been pointed out by historians and collectors that the No. 5 Mk I must have had some fault not found with the No. 4 Lee–Enfield (from which the Jungle Carbine was derived), as the British military continued with manufacture and issue of the Lee–Enfield No. 4 Mk 2 rifle until 1957,[14] before finally converting to the L1A1 SLR.[15]
No reports of wandering zero are explained by the inability to truly 'zero' the 'tangent sights' used on SMLE rifles and there also exist no reports or demonstrations of 'Jungle Carbines' maintaining or returning to 'zero'. The massive amount of barrel length removed from SMLE rifles as different 'marks' were developed could easily explain why the 'Jungle Carbine' has nothing like the reputation for accuracy and precision other 'marks' are praised for despite having the shortest, most-rigid and presumably the newest barrels available. Unless, of course, successive 'marks' of SMLE rifles are/were 'overhauled' rather than new production rifles with cleaning rod-worn muzzle rifling and crowns removed by 'cutting down' old barrels.
That each 'new' mark is/was at the least the same length as earlier rifles and often shorter by multiple inches at the expense of velocity, energy and - according to some who believe longer barrels are better - accuracy; and reductions in velocity would affect the calibration of 'tangent sights' suggests that 'Jungle Carbines' were and are a bridge too far in 'economically' overhauling old, hardly-fired but heavily-handled and excessively-cleaned rifles.
The most common cause of worn-out muzzles, crowns and rifling is daily cleaning of unused rifles with steel cleaning rods from the muzzle end.[citation needed]Post-war non-military conversions[edit]
Though they did not invent the name, the designation 'Jungle Carbine' was used by the Golden State Arms Corporation in the 1950s and 1960s to market sporterised military surplus Lee–Enfield rifles under the 'Santa Fe' brand.[16] Golden State Arms Co. imported huge numbers of SMLE Mk III* and Lee–Enfield No. 4 rifles and converted them to civilian versions of the No. 5 Mk I and general sporting rifles for the hunting and recreational shooting markets in the US, marketing them as 'Santa Fe Jungle Carbine' rifles and 'Santa Fe Mountaineer' rifles, among other names.[16]
This has led to a lot of confusion regarding the identification of actual No. 5 Mk I 'Jungle Carbine' rifles, as opposed to the post-war civilian sporting rifles marketed under the same name.[3] The easiest way to identify a 'Jungle Carbine' rifle is to look for the markings on the left hand side of the receiver; a genuine No. 5 will have 'Rifle No 5 Mk I' electrostencilled there,[17] while a post-war conversion will generally have either no markings or markings from manufacturers who did not make the No. 5 Mk I (for example, Savage or Long Branch).[3] Santa Fe 'Jungle Carbine' rifles are so marked on the barrel.[16]
Companies such as the Gibbs Rifle Company and Navy Arms in the U.S. have produced and sold completely re-built Enfields of all descriptions, most notably their recent '#7 Jungle Carbine' (made from Ishapore 2A1 rifles) and the 'Bulldog' or 'Tanker' carbine rifles, which are also fashioned original SMLE and No. 4 rifles.[18]Notes[edit]
*^ipso-facto Productions (19 August 2009). 'Bougainville: Our Island, Our Fight Trailer' – via YouTube.
*^Skennerton (2007) p.244
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*^Skennerton (2007), p.246
*^Skennerton (1994), p.5
*^Skennerton (1994), p.7
*^'Lee Enfield No.5 'jungle carbine''. forums.gunboards.com.
*^Skennerton (1994) p.7
*^Skennerton (2007), p. 406
*^Skennerton (2007) p.245
*^Skennerton (2007) p. 204
*^Skennerton (1994) p.8
*^Skennerton (1994), p.8
*^Skennerton (2007), p.559
*^Skennerton (2001), p.5
*^ abcSkennerton (2007) p.380
*^Skennerton (2007) p.499
*^Skennerton (2007), p.382Lee Enfield Jungle Carbine StockReferences[edit]Lee Enfield Jungle Carbine Serial Numbers Date Of Manufacture
*Skennerton, Ian (2007). The Lee-Enfield. Gold Coast QLD (Australia): Arms & Militaria Press. ISBN978-0-949749-82-6.
*Skennerton, Ian (1994). Small Arms Identification Series No. 4: .303 Rifle, No. 5 Mk I. Gold Coast QLD (Australia): Arms & Militaria Press. ISBN978-0-949749-21-5.
*Skennerton, Ian (2001). Small Arms Identification Series No. 12: 7.62mm L1 & C1 F.A.L. Rifles. Gold Coast QLD (Australia): Arms & Militaria Press. ISBN978-0-949749-21-5.
*Wilson, Royce (May 2006). Jungle Fever- The Lee-Enfield .303 Rifle. Australian Shooter Magazine.Lee Enfield Jungle Carbine StockRetrieved from 'https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Jungle_Carbine&oldid=961607349'
